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Hi. I am wondering the GENERAL process of how DXC copies a DVD. Super-In-Depth info is not needed, as I won't understand it, but more information than "it rips a dvd and copies it to disk" is needed.
If you know this or care to explain it to me I would greatly appreciate it!
Thank you
dengar
Senior Member
13 Mar 2003 12:12 AM
What do you need to know for? But since you asked for "the GENERAL process of how DXC copies a DVD" here goes: It rips the movie to the hard drive and then copies it to a disk. What else do you need to know? The better question is why?
Are you the same guy who wanted to copy the copy from a +rw to a +r? I don't want to upset you, but I read that thread and I agree with the others. What's up with you? There's something about you I don't trust. You cannot make a copy of a copy. You have to do the whole process over from sratch with the original.
Besides, this forum is to help people to get DXC to work, not the place to break it down into specifics. But if you spend a little time and energy searching for your answer on this and other afterdawn forums, I'd bet you can figure it out.
dengar
Senior Member
13 Mar 2003 12:19 AM
Toad--
P.S. Just because you don't like the answers you got in the first thread you started is no reason to waste space and start another thread.
The reason you are not getting the answers you want is because we don't trust you. Like someone said in the other thread, there is a way to do what you want (other software), but the rules of the forum (have you read them?) prevent us from discussing it here. PM someone and they will help you, or do some legwork on your own, its not that hard.
TheToad30
Newbie
13 Mar 2003 12:30 AM
What the hell is the matter with you people? Can't you just answer a god damn question without always policing everything? All I want to know is the encoding and decoding process or if there is one at all. For christ's sake I bet the majority of you people writing this shit to me have tons of illegal movies. All I want to do is prevent coasters, and this is the hell I get? This forum is supposed to be helpful, not a bitch to use. I didn't post on this forum to get shit from people. All I asked was for help. You don't want to help, don't, but I don't need your useless remarks.
If someone wants to help me, great. If you don't, keep your mouth shut.
And for the last time: I do not, nor have I ever, illegally copied a DVD. I have no intention to do that. Besides, if I did that, what would stop me from just copying to an R anyway? DXC wouldn't stop me there. I could make as many copies of an original as I wanted, just would have to keep burning and burning and burning to different R's. So, if I was to do that, I would have no point in asking any of these questions now would I? So enough of that.
You people need to use your heads. Copying illegal DVD's wouldn't be hard, and I have already figured that out if I wanted to do it. But that obviously isn't what I want to do. How hard is that to understand?
Now, can we please get back on subject to my original question? I think I have the right to know how the software in my computer is working. I know the general decoding process; I know that DXC copies and deCSS's my DVD's to my hard drive. I know where it puts these files, cause they are where I told it to put them. I know it rips the Video_TS folder and the AUDIO_TS folder. Now, what I am wondering, is how does it burn the data back onto the DVD's? Does it reCSS them? Does it just put them on the DVD straight as data? How does a DVD player know that it is a DVD instead of a DATA DVD? What file does the regular DVD player read to recognise a DVD Video? These are the answers I would like to know so that down the line I can backup DVD's with the important data instead of data that I don't need, such as spanish audio or captions that I will never use. The answers to these questions will help me to fit a DVD-9 onto one DVD-R so that I don't burn a second disc just for a feature that I will never use.
Also, with the audio, does it decode the 5.1 digital or does that get passed along to the burned disc? I am sure I will have many more questions after these get answered and I play with the powerful features of DXC.
Thank you
Whisperer
Senior Member
13 Mar 2003 1:42 AM
""I know the general decoding process; I know that DXC copies and deCSS's my DVD's to my hard drive""
DXC does not decode or "deCSS".
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""how does it burn the data back onto the DVD's? Does it reCSS them?""
DXC burns a mirror backup of your original.
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""How does a DVD player know that it is a DVD instead of a DATA DVD""
A backup is not a "data DVD". Your player, for all practical purposes, doesn't know the difference between a backup and an original.
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""down the line I can backup DVD's with the important data instead of data that I don't need, such as spanish audio or captions that I will never use""
DXC Platinum version (release due between March and April) will allow you to do this. There are no manual controls in v.1.4.1 for you to use for these purposes.
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""Also, with the audio, does it decode the 5.1 digital or does that get passed along to the burned disc?""
DXC is not "decoding" any video or audio.
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The beauty of DXC is that it makes a legal, safety-backup of an original that you own. It never deals with decoding copy protection; it is a mirror (so to speak) of the original and includes all the copy protection of the original. In other words, DXC bypasses copy protection and makes a (another) copy-protected backup for personal use. It is a well thought out "scheme" of "checks & preventions" that DXC uses to make pirating impractical because the time involved to make just one backup is too long to be profitable vs the price that a black market copy would sell for. DXC goes to court this spring against the MPAA to fight for our "fair use" rights under copyright law. Your questions set off alarms for forum users because we know that posts from this forum can be used against DXC in court. The negativity that you have encountered is because your questions are "tightrope" close to what we consider legal. No facetiousness, nothin personal, no dis intended.
Best regards
Atomium
Newbie
13 Mar 2003 5:20 AM
to TheToad30
Just to keep the level of this forum at a reasonnable level, I would respectfully suggest that you be polite in your post. You will not get better/quicker answers in insulting people and using inapropriate rought wording.
patnat
Newbie
13 Mar 2003 6:03 AM
Backup your original dvd to a dvd-r. Take the plunge. Skip the test backup to your dvd-rw. You're risking $1.50. Get off this forum, stop wasting everyones time, your nonsense is putting DXC at risk.
ladybug
Member
13 Mar 2003 7:54 AM
sounds to me like he doesn't own the original movie or something to that effect. I hope he is not trying to copy rented movies. If so I don't think we should answer any more of his questions. 321 has enough to worry about without a yahoo like this trying to make it bad for the rest of us.
Jaybo
Inactive
13 Mar 2003 8:13 AM
TheToad30,
You sir do not understand. This Forum is for the Legal use of DVDXCopy. We do *NOT* engage in any conversations on how to circumvent our purchased product.
Should you choose to partisipate in this forum, foul language is not permmited. Flamming, or being dissrespectful,and name calling is also not permited.
Any ways of circumventing DVDXCopy is *NOT* Allowed here.
Anyone caught using DVDXCopy illegally is subject to the full weight of the law.
Mag66
Senior Member
13 Mar 2003 9:18 AM
Quick and simple answer..
DXC intercepts the data after it has been decoded by the player. DXC then interprets the IFO info so it knows how to recreate the original info on the disk. This is why DXC only backs up DVD Movies and not DVD Data disks.. because only movie disks have information in the form of IFO files etc..
DXC does not decode the original data itself and nor does it remove any protection itself.
DXC adds a layer of protection itself to prevent a user from making multiple backups from a backup or an original.
DXC is designed to make one backip from one original DVD. Want to make another backup.. then DXC requires you to go through the whole backup proceedure again using the original source..
Ok... the original question would now seem to have been answered so again, this thread will now be closed.
Regards..
Mag
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13 Mar 03 9:28 AM
dengar
Senior Member
13 Mar 2003 9:22 AM
Anyone know toads real name? I think he is a good candidate for the $10,000.
Toad--If you bothered to do any basic research at all you would have learnd that DXC does noe decss anything. You could also have learned the answers to your other questions.You need to get it straight that no discussion of any ways of circumventing DVDXCopy is *NOT* Allowed here.What you want to do most definately circumvents DXC. May I suggest again that you go and read the forum rules.