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How do you know that Verbatim media is manufactured by Ricoh. I see no marking on my Verbatims to support this. Also I saw a post at fatwallet that Verbatims are manufactured by Ritek. Additionally, if TDK, Verbatim, Memorex, and Philips are all manufactured by Ricoh, why would Sony only list Verbatim's (and NOT the others) as supported DVD+R media on their DRU-510A?
Confused and curious.
greg
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johnm160
Junior Member
20 Sep 2003 6:39 PM
Spacedout
I bought 100 double dvd cases from Rima. Fast shipping, arrived as promised.
I would do business with them again
John
Tha187um
Member
20 Sep 2003 10:52 PM
GTurner, I know Nero had a built in utility on the CD-DVD Speed tool, but on version 6 I couldn't get it :( so here, I found another tool for you...
This the info I get back from a memorex media, by the way, I was refering to all those brands on the +R 4x category, it might be different on a lower speed and on the -R versions, so all I can say that all I said is true to the 4x +R media...
try it and please post what you find, by the way, I have Sony as well and I've tried so many different brans in both + and - so you DO NOT have to stick to what they say, its just a recommendation so when you have a problem and you call tech support, the first thing they will ask you is, what brand of media are you using? when you say something besides what they recommend, they will tell you, its not compatible with that media :) lol I love tech support, they make me laugh :)
Unique Disc Identifier : [RICOHJPN-R01-02+R]
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Disc Type : [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID : [RICOHJPN]
Media Type ID : [R01]
Product Revision : [02]
Disc Application Code : [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [2.4x - 4x]
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[DVD Plus Identifier - http://DvdPlusID.CdFreaks.com]
My Specs:
P4 2.2 (400MHz. FSB)
1GB PC 266
2-40GB Hard Drive on a Raid 1 *as boot volume*
1-60GB Hard Drive*as secondoray/storage volume*
ATI Radeon AIW-8500DV
Creative DVD-Rom 12x
Plextor 16x CDRW
Sony Dru500a with latest firmware
Antec
gturner
Junior Member
20 Sep 2003 11:56 PM
Tha187um,
Thanks; cool program. The Verbatim disc in the gray bottom spindle produced the following results (same as yours). I'll try a the Verbatim in the black bottom spindle next.
Unique Disc Identifier : [RICOHJPN-R01-02+R]
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Disc Type : [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID : [RICOHJPN]
Media Type ID : [R01]
Product Revision : [02]
Disc Application Code : [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [2.4x - 4x]
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gturner
Junior Member
21 Sep 2003 12:49 AM
Tha187um,
I am furious! The reason I thought to check a disc from each spindle is because I noticed poorer results with the so-called "Verbatims" in the black bottomed spindle. I burned all 15 from the gray bottomed spindle with perfect results. However, the first few from the black bottomed spindle exhibited pixelation and a couple of coasters out of the first 6 discs. These discs produced the following results using DVD Plus Identifier. Note the manufacturer is MCC. Who the heck is MCC? Since I received two spindles of each using the Office Depot special a couple of weeks ago, I'm taking the black ones back tomorrow and trading for gray (Note all four of my OD spindles were DVD+R as the local OD store was kind enough to trade the two -R spindles for +R). I should point out that there is no difference in appearance between the MCC & Ricoh discs.
Unique Disc Identifier : [MCC-002-00+R]
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Disc Type : [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [002]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code : [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [2.4x - 4x]
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serious
Member
21 Sep 2003 1:28 AM
hey all
i finally bit the bullet and purchased the oneacer special...100pack of +rw for $169 and free shipping.
will report on the service and quality when i receive my shipment.
one happy to be burning over and over dad
ben
hey security did i beat you to the punch?
Tha187um
Member
21 Sep 2003 2:05 AM
Ah, the dreaded MCC, we meet again I see, I've been lucky enough to have never dealt with this in the past, thanks for the identifiers tip, I've never seen a black bottom spindle from Memorex, but if I do, I know to stay away from them.
MCC - Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Funny because its a great company with a strong name, but here in the dvdxcopy forum is well hated by many and other forums as well. I came accross some forums that praise the company, they talk about how they are the most compatible media out there, might be true, just not for the sony drives :)
MCC (that I know of) is the only company for now producing the 8x DVD media.
I wish manufacturers (in this case, the branding companies) would label their products so that their customers know exactly what they are getting.
Good luck and Im glad I was able to help.
My Specs:
P4 2.2 (400MHz. FSB)
1GB PC 266
2-40GB Hard Drive on a Raid 1 *as boot volume*
1-60GB Hard Drive*as secondoray/storage volume*
ATI Radeon AIW-8500DV
Creative DVD-Rom 12x
Plextor 16x CDRW
Sony Dru500a with latest firmware
Antec
gturner
Junior Member
21 Sep 2003 2:34 AM
Interesting; as it turns out MCC is actually supported by Sony (per their web site). Nonetheless, my experience has soured on them; I'm returning the unopened spindle of MCCs tomorrow and trading for the Ricohs.
Tha187um
Member
21 Sep 2003 2:40 AM
Well, it might be supported and it might work great for data storage and not for video, remember all of us here are using General Purpose media, WHICH is good for video, but not MADE for video... I've seen media that says purpose: Video Recording and are very very pricy.
My Specs:
P4 2.2 (400MHz. FSB)
1GB PC 266
2-40GB Hard Drive on a Raid 1 *as boot volume*
1-60GB Hard Drive*as secondoray/storage volume*
ATI Radeon AIW-8500DV
Creative DVD-Rom 12x
Plextor 16x CDRW
Sony Dru500a with latest firmware
Antec
im glad we have this thread to spread this info around
serious (ben): run the utility and tell us who makes the "oneacer special" i'm sure you will get good use from them. have you started a digital photo album yet?
gturner
Junior Member
21 Sep 2003 7:31 PM
Went to Office Depot today and traded my "Verbatim" MCC (black bottom) for "Verbatim" Ricohs (gray bottom). Used the utility Tha187um put me onto and confirnmed the new gray bottom Verbatims were, as expected, Ricoh.
gturner
Junior Member
21 Sep 2003 7:42 PM
I also had some TDK +R 4x media that I'd had good luck with. Tested these and, to no surprise, they are also Ricoh (same output from the 'identifier' utility as the Verbatim Ricohs).
FYI (repeat from one of my previous posts); I use the Sony DRU-510A, rev 1.0c firmware.
bmehta
Newbie
22 Sep 2003 3:44 PM
I used two TDK DVD+RW discs and they worked great. Since then I've tried 3 Imation DVD+R disks and they've all failed. When I put them in my DVD player I get the message 'Check Disc'.
Apparently Imation doesn't work well for me and my I/O magic internal DVD+RW drive.
Has anyone else had this experience? I would buy more TDK's but they're really expensive and I'm looking for something that is reliable but more inexpensive.
security
Senior Member
22 Sep 2003 3:55 PM
do you get the burn complete message after the burn just like when you use an rw?
do they play on the computer ?
have you ever played any other brand of +r on your set top player? it may be a +rw only player?
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serious
Member
22 Sep 2003 4:43 PM
All, Hi!
i am just reporting on the media i have successfully used with 321 products.
i have Great success with +R: Fuji 2.4x(high polish silver-tops Black writing),and matted silver tops, TDK 4x, Memorex 4x.
these are all produced by Ricoh(Japan) incidentally!
the 4x are rev 2 and the 2.4x is rev 1.
i have also had Good( only because i have use about 20 total) success with verbatim -R.
and these are produced by CMC.
Also needs mentioning that i have used 4x media but cant/wont burn at that speed, firmware 1.1c for my oem(DW-U10A) sony burner wont allow it.
one happy to help dad
ben
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oneacer
Member
22 Sep 2003 5:11 PM
serious,
Was that the LEDA brand you bought, as that is the brand I have had great success with. I did notice that they lowered the price just recently to 169.00 including shipping for the 100 +RW.
security
Senior Member
22 Sep 2003 5:25 PM
oneacer:
I wonder who made the bad batch of OPTO you got.
I also heard that opto was switching manufacturers. I wonder if you got old opto or new?
hey do you have any left to test? didnt some of them work?...use the identifier and let us know.
fyi: some new brands ive seen lately that are realy cheap...Eproformance +rw/arita+r/infodisc +rw
anyone ever tried those?
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security
Senior Member
22 Sep 2003 7:33 PM
get ready for this:
According to DigiTimes article, it seems likely that Taiwanese optical media manufacturers will start mass production of 8x DVD-R and DVD+R blank media in next month.
Major DVDR drive manufacturers have announced their 8x writers during the last couple of weeks, but lack of suitable media for such drives is currently the major obstacle for the next step in drive speeds. According to Taiwanese manufacturers, such as Ritek, they have postponed bigger volume manufacturing of 8x discs because their local drive manufacturers haven't been able to release 8x drives yet.
8x discs will cost appx. between $1.30 and $1.50 per disc, compared to a price bracket of $1.00-$1.20 for 4x discs. For those of you, who aren't aware of the DVDR writing speeds, with 4x it takes appx. 15mins to burn one DVD±R disc (of 4.38GB).
Tha187um
Member
22 Sep 2003 10:02 PM
To add to security's commend, MCC is also mass producing the 8x media :) good luck :) hehe.. ok, I have this to add, yes, a 4x will take about 15 minutes, but an 8x will take about 10 (as posted on all sites with info on them) so unless you will buy a drive for the first time, or upgrading from your 1x maybe 2x drive, its not worth it upgrading from a 4x drive... Just like cd writers, have you noticed how on a 24x its about 5 minutes to write to a disc? but on a 52x they advertise (writes to a full disc in under 4 minutes) shouldn't it be more like 2 minutes? :) well thats besides the point, remember 321 doesn't even recommends 1x burning, at max, 2x or 2.4 for the + drives... a big no no on 4x and no imagine on 8x :) its a big no no no no :) ... well, we have derailed enough on the topic :) its all gturner's fault :) lets all get busy and look up some specials.!
Tha187um
Member
22 Sep 2003 10:17 PM
Ok, for those memorex fans, this is pretty cheap considering it comes with a jewel case and good for those not wanting to buy too many.
My Specs:
P4 2.2 (400MHz. FSB)
1GB PC 266
2-40GB Hard Drive on a Raid 1 *as boot volume*
1-60GB Hard Drive*as secondoray/storage volume*
ATI Radeon AIW-8500DV
Creative DVD-Rom 12x
Plextor 16x CDRW
Sony Dru500a with latest firmware
Antec
oneacer
Member
22 Sep 2003 10:28 PM
security,
Of the 25 Optodisk, there were 8 that were not flawed and they burned just fine. Having 17 out of 25 flawed with interior spots soured me on Optodisk however. I have not had a chance to see who made them yet.
Rag Tag 47
security
Senior Member
24 Sep 2003 10:55 AM
did you all know it was 40% off all fuji media this week at best buy
abell44
Inactive
24 Sep 2003 2:40 PM
security,
Thanks for the heads up. I believe you can get free ship on Best Buy website as well.
Office Depot has Memorex 4X +R's 50 Pack for 74.44
Ordering from the website for in-store pickup: (you can try this and see if it works).
http://www.officedepot.com/index.do?tab= Select Order By Item #
Enter item #: 936136 , Qty: 1
Select Add To Cart
If the Insufficient Stock Message Appears, Select "Order 0 now and backorder 1 for future delivery.
Hit Continue
When the Shopping Cart opens up, Select Pick Up At Store.
Update Shopping Cart.
Choose a store
It should now show as available for pick up/purchase.
Some coupon codes you can try:
If you add something small to get over 75.00, you can try these coupons codes.
15.00 off 75.00 , 92923224 exp 12/31
$20.00 off $75.00 , 49725335 or 67438148 exp 9/30
Here's another for 20.00 off 100.00
79253059 exp 9/30
Good luck.
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serious
Member
25 Sep 2003 5:21 AM
oneacer!
why yes they are! i'm sorry i thought you would have known that they are now $169 for 100 and still free shipping!
ok i have a query for you where is shp4tech located? i am located in the Pacific Northwest and am trying to figure out when to expect my shipment.
We dont have any manufacturers, or distributors of blank media up here, just a little-known software company, called micro-something or other ;-p
one happy-to have my blanks-dad
ben
serious
Member
25 Sep 2003 5:46 AM
security,
I will check those Leda's when i get them, and post the info.
FWIW all the media i have purchased has been from best buy, comp usa, and now shop4tech.
BB: fuji=+R/W 2.4x,+R4x; Memorex +4x(10pk in dvd cases $19.99)
C-USA: sony +rw,-rw
S4T: leda +rw
oh my sony +rw is made by: ricoh w01 r01
oh my sony -rw is made by: not sure it says sony 000000u9; media id code speed is 2x, interesting
hope this helps
ask oneacer to check his out and we'll compare when i get mine.
one happy-with ricoh blanks-dad
ben
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